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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: joel64 pattern game 1/14/12 | 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: re: joel64 # 163 # 113 | 
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joel64 # 163 # 113
 
 
1..23......4..5....6....7..8....9.5.2...1...4.9.3...6...5...8.....4.6.......7...2
 
 
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too tough for me, of course
 
-- but why does our Grade button call it "too hard" ? | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: re: joel64 # 163 # 113 | 
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				 	  | Pat wrote: | 	 		  | -- but why does our Grade button call it "too hard" ? | 	  
 
It is more than hard but can be solved with a single wing. | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject:  | 
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h-wing
 
(7=3)r7c9-(3)r3c9=(3-2)r3c3=(2)r8c3 => r8c3<>7 | 	 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: re: joel64 # 163 # 113 | 
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				 	  | Pat wrote: | 	 		   	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		  
 
joel64 # 163 # 113
 
 
1..23......4..5....6....7..8....9.5.2...1...4.9.3...6...5...8.....4.6.......7...2
 
 
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too tough for me, of course
 
-- but why does our Grade button call it "too hard" ? | 	  
 
 
Pat,
 
 
"Too hard" for the Draw/Play solver on this site means that it cannot solve it with 
 
 
Basics
 
Hidden or naked sets of whatever degree
 
X-wings
 
XY-wings
 
XYZ-wings
 
 
Exceptions have been found.
 
 
Keith | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | It is more than hard but can be solved with a single wing. | 	  
 
Perhaps so, but I was pretty happy to just solve it, using a Skyscraper, XY-Loop, Coloring and an M-Wing.
 
 
H-Wing is a new one that I never heard of. Seems we now have a wing for almost every letter of the alphabet.        | 
			 
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