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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Set XY_01 Puzzle 88 -- Advanced | 
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				Last puzzle of the set.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   +-----------------------+
 
 | . . 3 | . 6 . | . . . |
 
 | . . 6 | 1 . . | 7 . . |
 
 | 4 1 . | . . . | . 6 8 |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 5 . | 4 . 3 | 2 . . |
 
 | 3 . . | . 8 . | . . . |
 
 | . . . | 2 . . | . 8 . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 4 . | 9 . . | 6 5 . |
 
 | . . 1 | . . 4 | 8 2 . |
 
 | . . 8 | . . . | . . 9 |
 
 +-----------------------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   r7  b7  Locked Pair                     <> 27   [r7c59],[r8c12],[r9c12]
 
     b3  Naked  Pair                     <> 39   [r1c78],[r2c9]
 
 r3  b2  Locked Triple                   <> 237  [r12c6]
 
   c1    Naked  Triple                   <> 279  [r8c1]
 
   c6b2  Locked Pair                     <> 59   [r569c6]
 
 r6      Naked  Pair                     <> 67   [r6c359]
 
 
         Skyscraper      r47c5           <> 1    [r5c9],[r9c8]
 
 
 W-Wing: 4/1 in r1c8,r9c7 connected by 1 in r17c9 => r1c7,r9c8<>4
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  279   27    3     |  8     6     59    |  145   14    1245  |
 
 |  29    8     6     |  1     4     59    |  7     3     25    |
 
 |  4     1     5     |  37    237   27    |  9     6     8     |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  8     5     79    |  4     179   3     |  2     179   6     |
 
 |  3     267   2479  |  567   8     167   |  145   1479  457   |
 
 |  1     67    49    |  2     59    67    |  3     8     45    |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  27    4     27    |  9     13    8     |  6     5     13    |
 
 |  56    9     1     |  3567  357   4     |  8     2     37    |
 
 |  56    3     8     |  567   1257  1267  |  14    47    9     |
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 # 65 eliminations remain
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well, this puzzle beat me.  As advertised, it could/did contain a chain that I was not able to find. I know this because I finally gave up and ran "Sudoku Susser".
 
 
Did anyone else find a solution without a chain?
 
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Did anyone else find a solution without a chain? | 	  
 
no, but I didn't search for everything.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  .------------------.------------------.------------------.
 
| 279   27    3    | 8     6     59   |H1-45 A14    1245 |
 
| 29    8     6    | 1     4     59   | 7     3     25   |
 
| 4     1     5    | 37    237   27   | 9     6     8    |
 
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
 
| 8     5     79   | 4    C179   3    | 2    B179   6    |
 
| 3     267   2479 | 567   8     167  | 145   1479  1457 |
 
| 1     67    49   | 2     59    67   | 3     8     45   |
 
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| 27    4     27   | 9    D13    8    | 6     5   E13    |
 
| 56    9     1    | 3567  357   4    | 8     2     37   |
 
| 56    3     8    | 567   1257  1267 |F14  G1-47   9    |
 
'------------------'------------------'------------------' | 	  
 
(4=1)A - (1)B = (1)C - (1=3)D - (3=1)E - (1=4)F;  G and H not 4
 
skyscraper 1: r4c8 = r4c5 - r7c5 = r7c9; r5c9 and G not 1 | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				If Norm had performed his Skyscraper eliminations first, then a <14> W-Wing would have been exposed to get around a 4-cell XY-Chain.
 
 
Aside Note: Except for a couple of puzzles in this set, all of the XY-Chains can be circumvented with either W-Wing(s) or a UR. Some puzzles could be cracked using either alternative.    | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  | If Norm had performed his Skyscraper eliminations first, then a <14> W-Wing would have been exposed to get around a 4-cell XY-Chain. | 	  
 
Now I am embarrassed since I did perform the skyscrapter first, but missed the w-wing.    
 
Ted | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | tlanglet wrote: | 	 		   	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  | If Norm had performed his Skyscraper eliminations first, then a <14> W-Wing would have been exposed to get around a 4-cell XY-Chain. | 	  
 
Now I am embarrassed since I did perform the skyscrapter first, but missed the w-wing.    
 
Ted | 	  
 
 
hmmm.  no points for us. | 
			 
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