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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: daily telegraph 12/28 | 
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4 8 . | . . . | . 6 9
 
. . 6 | . . 7 | 1 . .
 
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. . . | 5 6 2 | . . .
 
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. . . | 8 3 4 | . . .
 
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. . 1 | 2 . . | 8 . .
 
8 . . | . . . | . 7 6
 
7 . . | 9 . . | . . 4
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		  5       1       237     | 6       24      9       | 347     234     8
 
4       8       237     | 13      12      5       | 37      6       9
 
239     239     6       | 34      8       7       | 1       2345    235
 
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139     379     48      | 5       6       2       | 34G9    3489    17
 
236     235     48      | 7       9       1       | 56      48      23
 
1269    2579    5g9     | 8       3       4       | 56      2-9     17
 
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39      4       1       | 2       7       6       | 8       35G9    35
 
8       259     5r9     | 14      14      3       | 2R9     7       6
 
7       6       23      | 9       5       8       | 23      1       4
 
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obvious UR on {4,8}  in r4c38  and r5c38
 
 
then an x-wing on 3's
 
 
then an awesome multicoloring elimination on {9} killing the 9 in r6c8
 
 
I marked the coloring in the grid. 
 
 the capitol R, G  is one coloring chain
 
the lower r, g  is the other chain.  
 
 
the rule states that if R and r share a column, row or box then the other greens ( G and g ) can eliminate a candidate they both can see.
 
 
any thoughts or corrections or simplification would be nice. | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | any thoughts or corrections or simplification would be nice. | 	  
 
I don't understand. The chain with capital letters is three cells and I thought coloring chains have to be even number of cells. But regardless, it seems like the elimination of the 9 is from a simple skyscraper in columns 3 and 7. Maybe I'm missing something. | 
			 
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		Johan
 
 
  Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Bornem  Belgium
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				There is an ER for digit <9> in Box 9, the ERI in R8C8 can see one of the strong link* on <9> in C3, which 
 
eliminates <9> in R6C8 and the puzzle succumbs
 
 
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| 5         1        237   | 6          24        9   | 347       234      8     |
 
| 4         8        237   | 13         12        5   | 37        6        9     |
 
| 239       239      6     | 34         8         7   | 1         2345     235   |
 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 
| 139       379      48    | 5          6         2   | 349       3489     17    |
 
| 236       235      48    | 7          9         1   | 56        48       23    |
 
| 1269      2579     59*   | 8          3         4   | 56        2-[9]    17    |
 
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| 39        4        1     | 2          7         6   | 8  er     359      35 er |
 
| 8         259      59*   | 14         14        3   | 29        7 eri    6     |
 
| 7         6        23    | 9          5         8   | 23 er     1        4  er |
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				So far as I can see, the UR solves it, with only singles to follow.  I was looking at how to do it without the UR, it seems quite difficult.
 
 
By the way, there is also a Type 6 UR on <37> in R12C37.  It takes out <3> in R1C3.
 
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| aha,  an ER is what I was actually looking at.  and I was so "into"  the puzzle I didn't even notice that the UR solves it.  I was looking for other stuff.  geez, get a life norm | 
			 
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		Johan
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I noticed something else to solve  the puzzle with one move, when R3C4=3, it creates a [37] DP in R12C37, which means that R3C4=4 | 
			 
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