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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Feb 8 VH |   |  
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				| XY-Wing 34-39-49 pivoted in r4c5; r8c8<>4 solves it. 	  | Code: |  	  | +----------+-----------+------------+
 | 237 37 6 | 23 8   5  | 49  1  49  |
 | 9   1  5 | 4  7   6  | 28  3  28  |
 | 23  8  4 | 23 1   9  | 6   5  7   |
 +----------+-----------+------------+
 | 8   47 2 | 6  #39  37 | 5   *49 1   |
 | 47  5  3 | 1  29  27 | 489 6  489 |
 | 1   6  9 | 8  5   4  | 7   2  3   |
 +----------+-----------+------------+
 | 34  9  7 | 5  6   23 | 1   8  24  |
 | 5   2  8 | 7  *34  1  | 349 -49 6   |
 | 6   34 1 | 9  234 8  | 234 7  5   |
 +----------+-----------+------------+
 
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 Also Type 1 UR 23 in r13c14; r1c1<>23.
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		| hughwill 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Feb 8 VH |   |  
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				| As well as the 'double' 349 XY wing, there's also a one shot 234 XY wing with pivot on r7c6.
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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Feb 8 VH |   |  
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				| Not forgeting the W-Wing 34 in BOX 78 with SL 3 in col 7; r9c5<>4. |  | 
	
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		| eddieg 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Greeting from San Diego |   |  
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				| Have not posted here in years, stop by every once in a while to play a couple puzzles.  Good luck all. |  | 
	
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		| Rocky Mozell 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Is that a BUG+1 with the 7's in boxes 1,4 &5? It would be my first. |  | 
	
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Rocky Mozell wrote: |  	  | Is that a BUG+1 with the 7's in boxes 1,4 &5? It would be my first. | 
 
 A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. Or BUG+N is all bivalues with N trivalues. BUG+1 and 2 are commonly played, with +3 played less often.
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		| ronk 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 
 That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | ronk wrote: |  	  |  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 
 That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued.
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 I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2.
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		| ronk 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2. 	  | ronk wrote: |  	  | That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. 	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 
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 I made that same mistake when learning about BUGs, but in the BUG+n expression, the 'n' is the number of cells with extra candidates, not the number of extra candidates.
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | ronk wrote: |  	  |  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2. 	  | ronk wrote: |  	  | That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. 	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 
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 I made that same mistake when learning about BUGs, but in the BUG+n expression, the 'n' is the number of cells with extra candidates, not the number of extra candidates.
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 I'm firmly with Ron on this one.
 
 Keith
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:13 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | I'm firmly with Ron on this one. | 
 
 Keith, I didn't know there were any sides to take. I'm with Ron too. Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I was trying to concede he was correct when I said "I'm sure your definition is correct."
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