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		nataraj
 
 
  Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1048 Location: near Vienna, Austria
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: July 22 VH | 
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				This time, the "very hard" point comes rather early, while there are still quite a few unsolved cells around, so some searching is required. 
 
 
xy-wing 29-24-49 row 2 col 8, it takes out 9 in r5c5.
 
 
Also, for those who like to exhaust all basic techniques before going "vh", there is a naked quint(?) / hidden pair in box 4 (not needed for the solution).
 
 
I also found an xyz-wing but it did not do very much (249 col 4/box 2) | 
			 
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		LloydB
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I also found the xyz wing  but it may not have been needed as I later found a 249 xy wing which didn't seem to depend on it. That cracked the puzzle. | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I initially found the <249> xy-wing. Then as I was cleaning up, I saw a Type 1 UR on <46> which I took but was apparently not needed to complete the puzzle.
 
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: July 22 VH | 
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				 	  | nataraj wrote: | 	 		  
 
 
Also, for those who like to exhaust all basic techniques before going "vh", there is a naked quint(?) / hidden pair in box 4 (not needed for the solution).
 
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Nataraj, it can also be viewed as a naked quad / hidden pair in column 1, which is how I found it.
 
 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I prefer ER’s and UR’s, but could only find the 249 xy wing.  Seems this is all that is available at the VH stage. | 
			 
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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Daily Sudoku: Tue 22 Jul-2008 VH | 
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				| XY-Wing 249 Pivot {2,4}r2c8 with pincers 29 r2c5 and 49 r5c8 eliminating 9 in r5c5 solving the puzzle. | 
			 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | there is a naked quint  hidden pair in box 4  | 	  
 
 
That ain't no quint.  A quint is a five job - eg "one of five children born at the same time from the same pregnancy."   A quad maybe? | 
			 
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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject:  | 
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				quad, quint ... hm, it probably depends on one's point of view.
 
In box 4 there is a hidden pair/naked quint 
 
In col 1 there is a hidden pair / naked quad.
 
When I first did it I missed the box/line elimination that took out a 7 in r7c1... 
 
 
And, of course the xy wing is there already ...
 
 
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| 29      5       49       | 2489    7       48       | 1       6       3        | 
 
| 1       7       3        | 6       29      5        | 249     24      8        | 
 
| 269     8       469      | 249     1       3        | 29      7       5        | 
 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+ 
 
| 789     19      5        | 89      4       6        | 3       129     27       | 
 
| 6789    469     2        | 3       89      1        | 5       49      467      | 
 
| 369     13469   169      | 7       5       2        | 8       149     46       | 
 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+ 
 
| 369     369     679      | 1       238     478      | 246     5       24       | 
 
| 5       136     167      | 24      23      47       | 246     8       9        | 
 
| 4       2       8        | 5       6       9        | 7       3       1        | 
 
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