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		Earl
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Feb 16 DB | 
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				This DB has a few hidden trips and then a skyscaper (9) solves it.
 
 
 
Earl
 
 
 
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+-------+-------+-------+
 
| 1 . . | . . . | . . . |
 
| . 6 2 | . 4 . | . . . |
 
| 3 . 4 | . 5 . | . 1 . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . . . | 5 . 4 | . . 6 |
 
| 6 . 3 | 2 . 8 | 5 . 7 |
 
| 8 . . | 9 . 3 | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . 7 . | . 8 . | 2 . 1 |
 
| . . . | . 2 . | 4 6 . |
 
| . . . | . . . | . . 8 |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| There was a Type 4 UR on 24 and a W-Wing on 39 solved it. | 
			 
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		Victor
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Earl, that's a new one on me.  What are hidden trips?  (Sounds like 60s LSD or something!) | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				hidden trip wires...
 
 
maybe war veteran slang?? | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				xyz-wing
 
 
UR
 
 
then coloring on 9 | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Hidden triples?
 
 
I used a UR and the skyscraper.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		  hidden trip wires...
 
 
maybe war veteran slang?? | 	  
 
Hopefully he'll explain. In my old poker-playing days, three of a kind were called "trips", so maybe he means hidden triples. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Here's a new one, for me: An extended triple.
 
 
Can you solve this in one move?
 
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| 1    89   5    | 678  39c  267  | 67   24   2349 | 
 
| 7    6    2    | 13a  4    19b  | 8-9   58   359  | 
 
| 3    89   4    | 678  5    267  | 67   1    29   | 
 
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 29   12   19   | 5    7    4    | 38   38   6    | 
 
| 6    4    3    | 2    1    8    | 5    9    7    | 
 
| 8    5    7    | 9    6    3    | 1    24   24   | 
 
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 459  7    69   | 346  8    569  | 2    35   1    | 
 
| 59   3    8    | 17   2    17   | 4    6    59   | 
 
| 245  12   16   | 46   39d  56   | 39e  7    8    | 
 
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abc in B2 is a triple.  Any cell that sees all three cannot be <139>.  We can extend c <39> to d and e.  c and e are the same value.  R2C7 cannot be <9>, the puzzle is solved!  
 
 
Of course, abc is also a very useless XY-wing:  Any cell that sees both b and c cannot be <9>.
 
 
[The UR on <24> is in R16C89.  It takes out <24> in R1C9.
 
Th skyscraper on <9> is in C57.  It takes out <9> in R1C9.]
 
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		   	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		  hidden trip wires...
 
 
maybe war veteran slang?? | 	  
 
Hopefully he'll explain. In my old poker-playing days, three of a kind were called "trips", so maybe he means hidden triples. | 	  
 
 
yeah, you are right, I don't know where the trip wire thing came from.  three of a kind is trips. | 
			 
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		Johan
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| The <9> in R2C7 can also be eliminated by the ER in Box 2 | 
			 
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