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		| djray 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Is  this a Nice loop |   |  
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				| Is this a valid nice loop? If it is not valid please explain why. I am new at this I will greatly appreciate any assistance. 
 This is the current puzzle
 
 
 . 6 1 | 4 . 5 | 7 3 .
 
 5 3 . | . 1 7 | . . .
 
 2 4 7 | . . 8 | 1 . 5
 
 ------+-------+------
 
 4 1 . | . . . | 2 . .
 
 . . . | 1 5 4 | . . 3
 
 . . 3 | . . . | . . 1
 
 ------+-------+------
 
 3 . . | 9 4 1 | . . 7
 
 . . . | 5 7 2 | 3 1 4
 
 1 7 4 | 8 6 3 | 5 2 9
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 6 1 | 4 . 5 | 7 3 . |
 | 5 3 . | . 1 7 | . . . |
 | 2 4 7 | . . 8 | 1 . 5 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 4 1 . | . . . | 2 . . |
 | . . . | 1 5 4 | . . 3 |
 | . . 3 | . . . | . . 1 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 3 . . | 9 4 1 | . . 7 |
 | . . . | 5 7 2 | 3 1 4 |
 | 1 7 4 | 8 6 3 | 5 2 9 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
 [r6c8] -8- [r6c5]   [r6c5] -2- [r6c4]   [r6c4] -7-    [r4c4]   [r4c4 -3- [r3c4]  [r3c4 -6-]  [r3c8]   [r3c8] -9- [r6c8]
 
 
 If yes can I delete 9s at r2c8,r4c8,r5c8
 
 Best regards,
 Ray Baucum
 
 (Edited by Marty to add grid)
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | djray wrote: |  	  | Is this a valid nice loop? 	  | Code: |  	  | +---------------+----------+-----------------+ | 89   6   1    | 4  29 5  | 7    3      28  |
 | 5    3   89   | 26 1  7  | 4689 4689   268 |
 | 2    4   7    | 36 39 8  | 1    69     5   |
 +---------------+----------+-----------------+
 | 4    1   5689 | 37 38 69 | 2    56789  68  |
 | 6789 289 2689 | 1  5  4  | 689  6789   3   |
 | 6789 589 3    | 27 28 69 | 4689 456789 1   |
 +---------------+----------+-----------------+
 | 3    25  25   | 9  4  1  | 68   68     7   |
 | 689  89  689  | 5  7  2  | 3    1      4   |
 | 1    7   4    | 8  6  3  | 5    2      9   |
 +---------------+----------+-----------------+
 
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 [r6c8] -8- [r6c5] -2- [r6c4] -7- [r4c4] -3- [r3c4] -6- [r3c8] -9- [r6c8]If yes can I delete 9s at r2c8,r4c8,r5c8 
 If it is not valid please explain why.
 
 I am new at this,
 I will greatly appreciate any assistance.
 
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 nice loop? not very likely,
 what makes you think it is?
 sorry i can't explain
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		| ronk 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | djray wrote: |  	  | Is this a valid nice loop? [r6c8] -8- [r6c5] -2- [r6c4] -7- [r4c4] -3- [r3c4] -6- [r3c8] -9- [r6c8]
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 The syntax of the loop is correct but no exclusions result. If r6c8 is an 8, it cannot be 9; if 9 it cannot be an 8. This is what your loop says and no exclusion can be made from this logic.
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