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		| PaulH 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Please help me!! |   |  
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				| hi, I've had a few days off work and decided to become better at Sudoko! It was all going well until today. I am trying to complete the hard classic puzzle from friday 8th march. 
 I have filled in the first 10 moves in exactly the same way as the hint button suggests me to, but then I get stuck, I can see no further moves after several attempts at looking at it.
 
 The hint button then tells me to to put a 9 in the top right corner of the bottom left square.
 
 Why? why? why? I don't see it at all.
 
 Please help
   
 Cheers in advance
 
 Paul
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		| JC Van Hay 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I don't know if your are using pencilmarks or not ! In any case,
 with well identified bilocals (I am using .,-,| under candidates of a bilocal in a box, row, column respectively)
it should not be too difficult to detector by looking at the pattern of givens,
 the hidden pair 57 in column 7 (look at the 57 in the right middle box),
followed by an hidden pair 34 in the bottom row 9 (look at the 34 in row 8 )
 and a naked pair 57 in row 9 (look at the candidates in column 6).
 In short, 	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+------------------+-------------------------+ | 5     34   347        | 67    467   8    | 2        9        1     |
 | 1478  14   2          | 3     5     9    | 6        478      48    |
 | 478   9    6          | 2     47    1    | -34(57)  3478     3458  |
 +-----------------------+------------------+-------------------------+
 | 146   2    148        | 79    3     67   | 14       5        489   |
 | 9     5    13         | 8     2     4    | 13       6        7     |
 | 346   7    348        | 59    1     56   | 34       2348     23489 |
 +-----------------------+------------------+-------------------------+
 | 1347  134  -13457(+9) | 1567  67-9  2    | 8        1347     345   |
 | 17    6    157        | 4     8     3    | 9        127      25    |
 | 2     8    -157(34-9) | 1-57  9-7   (57) | (57-34)  -17(34)  6     |
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 	HP(57)C7 :=> -34r3c7 and -34r9c7;
HP(34)R9 :=> -1579r9c3 and -17r9c8, :=> +9r7c3;
 NP(57)R9 :=> -57r9c4 and -7r9c5;
 Singles to the end.
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		| PaulH 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thank you for taking the time to reply. 
 I have followed it through (successfully!) and have been welcomed to the world of HP and NP!
 
 Thanks again
   
 Paul
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